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[jekintel5]

today i have try one total different way. today i experiment with the way that my friend told me. he ask me to wear a headset and then listen to loud music so that i cant listen to my voice. this is cool that when i experiment talking in this way, i found that i less stutter. so, did any one or any doctor here know what is the next step? or anyone who have experiment this way and know the next procedure of this therapy? pls tell me........ i really needed to know, this is the first time in my whole life i feel stutter less in this way.........i would like to know the next step of this therapy if anyone here know? i would not recomond this as a replace of talking way because i think it will hurt of ear system because of the loud music. anyway i really happy today:P hope to hear from u all soon:P

[bwelling]

this is cool that when i experiment talking in this way, i found that i less stutter. so, did any one or any doctor here know what is the next step? or anyone who have experiment this way and know the next procedure of this therapy? pls tell me........ i really needed to know, this is the first time in my whole life i feel stutter less in this way.........anyway i really happy today:P hope to hear from u all soon:P

Hello Jentel -

John Harrison is an american icon for modern stuttering approaches.
Here is a excerpt from his 1999 article "The Power of observation" Mr. Harrison suggests that we should be very observant to all things that allow for fluency.

"One of these observations came to me just the other night. I was at a local jazz club with a good friend of mine. Before the band had a chance to start playing, my friend and I engaged in some conversation. My stuttering mentality was in full force. I blocked throughout our conversation, hesitated initiating conversation most of the time, and avoided certain words as well.

Then something happened. The band started playing very loud. Now I had to yell at the top of my lungs to be heard by my friend. But I was totally fluent! I even initiated some topics of discussion, and I can't even remember avoiding any words. Then the music stopped, and I was back to blocking again.

I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why did I go back to stuttering without the loud music playing?"

The answer was obvious: I was holding back.

I couldn't hold back when the music was loud because my friend would have trouble understanding me with my stuttering over the loud music. So I let it loose and wailed at the top of my lungs in order to be understood. The stuttering mentality took a back seat. I was fluent.

But what was I holding back when the music wasn't playing and I was stuttering? What did I want to block out of my consciousness? What was I afraid of saying? How was I afraid of coming across to my friend? I didn't have any ready answers. "

Keep on experimenting and you'll keep on learning.

bw

[jekintel5]

Hello Jentel -

John Harrison is an american icon for modern stuttering approaches.
Here is a excerpt from his 1999 article "The Power of observation" Mr. Harrison suggests that we should be very observant to all things that allow for fluency.

"One of these observations came to me just the other night. I was at a local jazz club with a good friend of mine. Before the band had a chance to start playing, my friend and I engaged in some conversation. My stuttering mentality was in full force. I blocked throughout our conversation, hesitated initiating conversation most of the time, and avoided certain words as well.

Then something happened. The band started playing very loud. Now I had to yell at the top of my lungs to be heard by my friend. But I was totally fluent! I even initiated some topics of discussion, and I can't even remember avoiding any words. Then the music stopped, and I was back to blocking again.

I couldn't help but think to myself, "Why did I go back to stuttering without the loud music playing?"

The answer was obvious: I was holding back.

I couldn't hold back when the music was loud because my friend would have trouble understanding me with my stuttering over the loud music. So I let it loose and wailed at the top of my lungs in order to be understood. The stuttering mentality took a back seat. I was fluent.

But what was I holding back when the music wasn't playing and I was stuttering? What did I want to block out of my consciousness? What was I afraid of saying? How was I afraid of coming across to my friend? I didn't have any ready answers. "

Keep on experimenting and you'll keep on learning.

bw

hmm........i dun have idea what u trying to say.

[bwelling]

hmm........i dun have idea what u trying to say.

Jentel - sorry that I wasn't clear. I was simply showing as Mr. Harrison suggested that we be aware of all things that allow us to be fluent. Loud music, he observed that he too, like you, allowed him to speak fluently.

Of course, like you said this can cause hearing damage and not very convenient way to be deal with stuttering. (But then again, neither is going down to the ocean and trying to speak loudly with stones in my mouth.) But we have to continue our search for the

But, it encourages me to do more experimenting like you.

bw

[jekintel5]

Jentel - sorry that I wasn't clear. I was simply showing as Mr. Harrison suggested that we be aware of all things that allow us to be fluent. Loud music, he observed that he too, like you, allowed him to speak fluently.

Of course, like you said this can cause hearing damage and not very convenient way to be deal with stuttering. (But then again, neither is going down to the ocean and trying to speak loudly with stones in my mouth.) But we have to continue our search for the

But, it encourages me to do more experimenting like you.

bw

ok. but anyway i cant alsway listen to loud music to help me talking less stutter. if anyone also experiment like me or use this way could u tell me the next step.....?

[mo885]

I don't really think there is a next step that anyone knows about. The devices like speecheasy sort of work of that principle. You hear a repeat of what you just said to make yourself fluent. Not the same thing but kind of similar.

[dritan]

What you are doing is some of the DAF process. Search for it on the net and you will find a lot. The technique is 50 years old. It works for the first 5 to 7 weeks and after is useless( at least for the 99% of the people).

Try yelling to someone and you will find that you will stutter very little. Is the same.

Dritan

[jekintel5]

well if for like this, i think all this is about brain tricks.

[happy7117]

:) I've been waiting for a thread to reply to like this.

I posted the same type of thread a month or 2 ago. The thread dealt with background noise, and speaking against the sound of rushing water.

I firmly agree that talking alongside background noise makes my stutter lessen very much.

I can stutter like a bitch when there is no music on or no background noise to concentrate on.

But if I am able to hear background noise that is louder than my voice as I am talking, I stutter way less or not at all.

Again with that waterfall theory I posted in my thread a month or so ago.

Try going next to a faucet and turning it on, and speak against the sound of the rushing water.

I find it far more easier to talk when I speak against the rushing water so to speak.

Same with headphones. Pop on a pair of headphones, and turn on the radio. Now talk along with the voices you can hear on a radio station.

I am betting your stuttering is vastly reduced???

Now take off the headphones, and speak to someone without being able to hear the sounds of those voices in your ears.

I am betting you stutter greatly???

We may be on to something.

In other words, the less we can hear our voice while we speak, the more we seem to don't stutter.

[Adrian]

ok. but anyway i cant alsway listen to loud music to help me talking less stutter. if anyone also experiment like me or use this way could u tell me the next step.....?

We were once able to purchase masking devices that would play a loud noise into your ear when you would speak (google Edinburgh Masker), but they are no longer made. Apparently having a loud noise blaring in your ear every time you talked was worse then the stuttering! I remember reading about research that shows that interfering with the auditory feedback loop creates fluency with the use of DAF or masking and it made no difference how loudly the person was speaking. No offense to bwelling, but I don't think it has anything to do with not "holding back."