Intoxicated Fluency

[coercion]

How do you guys find talking when you're innebriated?

With alcohol, I find that - as I get closer and closer towards being totally wasted - I stutter a lot less and generally sound more coherant. That is, until I reach a certain point at which I'm far too drunk to form words at all, heh.

Getting stoned is strange for me, sometimes I find it helps me talk a lot clearer. Other times it makes me really anxious and I have difficulty just putting a few words together.

I find cocaine (snorted) gives me 30 minutes or so of feeling very confident and I barely stutter at all. Naturally though, not exactly a solution to any problems (unless you happen to be a multimillionare with a nose of steel...).

Pills. Whow. The best nights of my life have been on these. And I'm not talking about just taking a couple and going around the clubs raving away (although that's cool too). That's what most of my mates want to do when they're on them, but for me spending the whole night dancing away just feels like a waste. Because when I'm on E, I can speak for hours and hours without even the slighest mispronounciation of a word. It totally removes my stuttering and anxiety. The last time I did them I ended up just sitting outside with a beer and a pack of fags, music flowing out of a nearby open window, having the most profound and refreshing chat with my best friends. I had the purest clarity of mind, and my mouth and tongue were moving comfortably and unconciously.

Which leads me to believe pretty strongly that my stutter is just down to nerves. I'm trying my hardest to cure myself, and those tastes of what it's like to be without a stutter really spur me on (and make me envy average joes for being able to talk fluidly all the time).

Does anyone else find recreational drugs can temporarily solve stutters?

[sloth]

Alright, first of all dude, something you might hear from others who reply: slow down with the drugs.
its great and all that they help your fluency, but you never know, in the end after all is said and done, the effect they may have on you is damage to your now broken fluency.
I have heard this in some other threads about having more fluency while under the unfluence. I actually have the exact opposite experiance. I have never gotten completely wasted, but when i'm drunk or "tipsy", i tend to stutter a lot more. Weed just messed me up completely, one of the reasons being it did slow my speak down which led to more stuttering (while high). It also contributed to my now problematic mental health issues...but we won't go there. my other drug of choice was one which realllllly slowed things down. i could barely move my mouth. I was never around people while on this but when I did speak I remember haveing trouble getting sounds out. I would always hide my condition while on this drug if other people were around, and I always feared that my increased stutter would give it away.
Been off the weed and the other drug for almost 2 years now, and my fluency is back to its normal rate which luckily for me is very high.
Take care, and stay safe.

[coercion]

I'm careful with drugs, I'll never do something unless I know all the risks involved, and I've yet to have any (unexpected) bad experiences. Also, they are purely just recreational, I don't consider myself to have any dependancies. And I certainly don't plan on adopting the mindset of "oo, if I just stay permanently on coke/ecstacy then I'll never stutter again! ingenius!". Indeed I'm committed to giving up everything except weed once I leave uni.

I'm of the mindset that not all drugs are as harmful as they're made out to be, and in fact some can even be beneficial in ways. You gain unique experiences that can give you an extra perspective on life, and sometimes these experiences can even be extremely spiritual (salvia trips, for example).

But I take your point; I'm making sure I steer well clear of any downward spiralling drug problems.

It'd be nice if, during the course of some crazy acid trip, something in your mind just permanently changed that resulted in a cure for your stutters though, heh. I've read that it's possible to cure such problems by lucid dream theropy (something I'm quite interested in, although havn't had much luck with so far), so who knows ;).

[sloth]

I'm careful with drugs, I'll never do something unless I know all the risks involved, and I've yet to have any (unexpected) bad experiences. Also, they are purely just recreational, I don't consider myself to have any dependancies. And I certainly don't plan on adopting the mindset of "oo, if I just stay permanently on coke/ecstacy then I'll never stutter again! ingenius!". Indeed I'm committed to giving up everything except weed once I leave uni.
Good to know. A lot of people these days don't think like that, so just checking up ;)

I'm of the mindset that not all drugs are as harmful as they're made out to be, and in fact some can even be beneficial in ways. You gain unique experiences that can give you an extra perspective on life, and sometimes these experiences can even be extremely spiritual (salvia trips, for example).
Honestly, thats somewhat my mindset as well. I guess it just all depends on the person: how they react, how they use...ect.
Won't say much more on that topic because most of the time people don't appreciate it.. :o

It'd be nice if, during the course of some crazy acid trip, something in your mind just permanently changed that resulted in a cure for your stutters though, heh. I've read that it's possible to cure such problems by lucid dream theropy (something I'm quite interested in, although havn't had much luck with so far), so who knows ;).
Acid trip to cure a stutter...first time I've heard that one . The lucid dream thing sounds interesting, even though I have no clue what it is. As long as its not 80$ an hour and as hard to take seriously as hypnotherapy ;)
Had other things to add after I re-read the post, hence the prior PM.

[coercion]

it's free in terms of money... but if you can't lucid dream naturally then it's pretty expensive in terms of commitment heh.

It's basically just learning to know when you're dreaming, 'waking up in your dream'. Using it as theropy is just a small part... the main point of doing it is flying around your dream world and exploring your inner self, heh. Check out www.lucidity.com if you're interested, good place to start.

It's possible to use lucid dreaming to sort out all kinds of waking problems. For example, if you have a fear of, say, spiders, you can overcome the fear by using a method called 'flooding' in your lucid dreams, where you just cover yourself in hundreds of spiders in your dream world. In theory, if you do it right, you'll wake up without the phobia. Likewise someone with vertigo could, say, go sky-diving in their lucid dream, or stand on top of a really tall building (knowing there's no actual risk), and absorb the experience as if it were from real life. I reckon the same could be done for stuttering; for example, you could put yourself on a stage in front of hundreds of people and give a speach, knowing it's just a dream, but feeling what it's like to be there and not stutter.

Mm, lots of possibilities ;)

[sloth]

Wow, really doesn't sound like my kind of thing. Have enough problems with dreams already :rolleyes: . If you give it a try though it would be neat to hear about it.

[JustKeisha]

I only smoke weed, on ocassions, is it not something I do regular basis, and it;s not something I want to do on a regualr basis, I wouldnt say it stops me from stammering, but it does eases me, and puts me thinkin on other things, so I could talk, stammer on everything, and wouldnt give a f*ck, but drugs is not an option imo'

[Andrew]

Yeah same here. Alcohol and Cannabis seem to make my speech more fluent, but shouldn't be used on a regular basis. Look to something like Paxil/Propanalol/Xanax.

[JustKeisha]

Yeah same here. Alcohol and Cannabis seem to make my speech more fluent, but shouldn't be used on a regular basis. Look to something like Paxil/Propanalol/Xanax.


Good Idea, this is why Im going to my doc tomorrow, to talk about those prescribtions, hopefully he can give me one of them, to try out, I just really need to lower my nerves, anxious ness, coz it feels like Im having a god damn heart attack lmao

[Andrew]

Yeah Xanax is a anti-anxiety drug that my mom has been perscribed for a long time now (10-20 years) for agoraphobia where she would get real nervous and have anxiety attacks outside. If your stuttering is coming from your anxiety about talking (which all of us here have) then it may work for you... I think it helps me. I've been hearing a lot about Propanalol where alot of people on this forum are having success with it and same goes for Paxil. Some users experience side effects from these though. The only side effect Xanax gives me is drowsiness, which I can deal with. If you do get a Xanax perscription, don't tell your friends... they'll be bugging you for it since its widely abused.

[Perad]

Wow, glad you stopped short of heroin, be interested about the effect it would have on stammering though if your interested in giving it a go. j/k

I don't do drugs, partly because i get worried about dieing, but mainly because they are outside of my circle.

With alcohol though it does greatly improve my stammer. When i am wasted, can't walk unaided i speak perfectly. And it does improve with the more i have.

At the end of the day i think it is all down to nerves. Either a bad experience or just some lack of courage overal. I personally think my stammer is because i am jumpy. When a car horn goes off i jump, all the time, loud noises, people jumping out... i can't help it. I guess its because i am not comfortable with my surroundings.

Drink and drugs certainly will change how you are, drugs i don't recommend, lots of side effects. Alcohol though is a great courage giver and the way i met my gf. I recommend it on night's out.. it just takes away all the stress the situation may present.

[coercion]

Oddly, I consider alcohol to be the most dangerous drug I take ;)

Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's harmless. I mean, the only reason cannabis was made illegal originally was down to racism; the american government wanted to make mexico look bad, and make latinos look like criminals, by making the drug they predominently used illegal. There was no "ooh it should be illegal because it's dangerous to our society". Alcohol is far more of a social cost than marijuana is. Just look at all the injuries and deaths from drunken fights, drink driving etc. Cannabis users are less inclined to fight than normal, drive slower, and generally don't get into any actual trouble (besides from having cannabis of course). Even dealing-related crime is relatively low when it comes to cannabis; although that small amount of crime would be non-existent if the drug was legally available.

[sign543]

Does anyone else find recreational drugs can temporarily solve stutters?

Well, I don't take drugs, but I have actually found that when "buzzed" at a party, that my stutter gets worse...I have a harder time when I drink than when I don't. I would have thought it would be the opposite, since you are more relaxed. Weird.

Tony
http://www.stutteringstudent.blogspot.com

[haleywynne]

I've never done drugs, nor do I ever want to. I go out to parties and I mingle, but I don't get wasted just go be able to talk clearly. My friends are my friends, they could care less if I stutter. I'm finding it that as I grow up people really don't care if you stutter. It's all in your head. I mean of course you have your assholes out there that actually care and might give you a weird look, but when it comes down to it, no one really cares. I mean, if you see a person in a wheel chair do you honostly think wtf hes a freak? ummm noooo-- I think it's basically the same thing. You just have to have confidence and truly believe that people will like you regardless of your disabilty :)
If you're going to go down a path of oh i have to get high or waaaaaaasted to feel better about myself, just so i can fit in with everyone else, that's the wrong path and it's only going to get worse for you.
So I know it's easier said than done, but don't go around drowning your miseries in temporary escapes- they only last for a little bit and then you eventually have to start from scratch once you come back being sober!

[bignick]

Well said. Totally agree.

By the way, welcome to the forum.

[Standingtall]

I totally agree. You don't need to drink or do recreational drugs to have a good time. I only have an pint of Rickards every now and the only drugs I take is for medical purposes.

Welcome too Haleywynne. Haleywynne is a name I would stutter on, that is why I picked STandingtall. Flash was already taken. See you out in the forum.

[happy7117]

Never been intoxicated before!!! What's it like!!!

[Standingtall]

Never been intoxicated before!!! What's it like!!!
Nothing to really write home about. I had some people tell me, it is a truth drug, it makes the real you come out. I don't know how to explain it. Take a ride, go around and around and try walking afterwards. Your senses are out of focus for a short period of time. Great stories to tell your buddies of the some of the stupid things you have done.

[AGOFCR]

:confused: Why do people even do drugs :confused:

[Mash]

I've found out when I drink my stuttering gets worse.

[Standingtall]

:confused: Why do people even do drugs :confused:
A real good question and I don't have an answer for you. I have heard about getting an high, or escaping from reality and stuff. I don't take illegal drugs, I prefer the natural high. I only take drugs to keep my sugar in check, if not, I would have been pushing up daisies a long time ago.

[Standingtall]

I've found out when I drink my stuttering gets worse.
I found with loud music, and being drunk, my speech was better. I started off as a Happy drunk, but I turned into an bitter SOB.

[AGOFCR]

A real good question and I don't have an answer for you. I have heard about getting an high, or escaping from reality and stuff. I don't take illegal drugs, I prefer the natural high. I only take drugs to keep my sugar in check, if not, I would have been pushing up daisies a long time ago.

I've been exposed to drugs many time, especially when I played in metal bands and I never got the urge to do it. And now, well doing what I do for a living, drugs definitely have no place in my life or in the life of any person who is employed by the Department of Defense . . . Period.

Have these drug users seen what they look like when they are in a state of stupor? That is the most ridiculous sight ever . . . Don't they realize it? And the idiotic things they say and do either land them in hot water, in jail, or six feet under!!!

Plain and simply ridiculous!!!

[LIfE]

I'm very much a social smoker/drinker. I find it relaxes me and pretty much eliminates my stutter. When i'm buzzing or feeling a little high, my true personality comes out and i'm the outgoing, interesting person i've always wanted to be. But in all seriousness, i'm way too smart to become an alcoholic or a pothead just because i can speak clearly - that's stupid. For now, i'll just enjoy the rare occasions when i'm drunk or high and keep praying for the day my problem can be cured.

[Silent]

Loud music is good, alcohol is bad for my speech. It locks me up totally, like the stuttering response is multiplied by 10 plus I lose all my controlled fluency. But in party settings the loud music counteracts the negatives of alcohol so my stuttering isn't that bad.

[DKoz]

My stutter is so much worse when I'm drunk. Yesterday was Canada Day and I was on the verge of being drunk and my stutter was acting up but I was having a good time :)

Days like today when I'm hungover I'm still having problems with fluency!

[LIfE]

Wow, i'm stunned that alcohol affects us all differently. I'm amazed at how complicated stuttering actually is, and at how simple everyone makes it out to be.

[Derek181]

its weird i used to find alcohol really helped my fluency and i loved to drink because i would be a fluent social guy but that only lasted a little while like a few years and now it doesnt matter ...... it actually gets a little worse when i drink now....